tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6748102197325960995.post4221718384608978342..comments2016-12-28T12:17:00.432-08:00Comments on The Dean's Blog: Learning from WesleyDean Kevinhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10900463973040820047noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6748102197325960995.post-48457172767238664282010-03-30T08:28:23.246-07:002010-03-30T08:28:23.246-07:00Laurie,
thanks for your comments. I am not sure t...Laurie,<br />thanks for your comments. I am not sure the Wesley would have been too concerned about making reformed, meaning, "Calvinists" comfortable, but he probably would have agreed with your statement.Dean Kevinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10900463973040820047noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6748102197325960995.post-10278451606672284962010-03-27T05:56:06.781-07:002010-03-27T05:56:06.781-07:00Dear Dean Kevin,
I just recently found your blog a...Dear Dean Kevin,<br />I just recently found your blog and enjoyed so much the writing you did on John Wesley that I have used it as part of a writing also. Thank you for your words about your Christian experience. In this age of technology, we are able to reach out to the world. It's a wonderul thing. <br />If you are interested, you may take a look at my site.<br /><br />www.boyerwrites.wordpress.com <br /><br />Blessings at this Easter time. Nancy in FloridaAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6748102197325960995.post-42532615713786536292010-03-25T12:48:33.411-07:002010-03-25T12:48:33.411-07:00Dear Kevin,
I just read your blog and appreciate ...Dear Kevin,<br /><br />I just read your blog and appreciate the thoughts and your tetstimony as I remember those days. I only flinched at one section where you said "People have free will and it is obvious that we have to cooperate with the Holy Spirit in ministry and growth". I propose that perhaps a better way to say the same thing would be something like "People have responsibility for their choices and must cooperate with the Holy Spirit in ministry and growth". A nuance like this keeps reformed folk like myself happy, affirms the warnings of the author to the Hebrews (Wesley's concern perhaps?) but also is sensitive to the 39 articles (esp articles XII and XVII) as well scripture (John 15:16, Ephesians 1:11, etc)<br /><br />I used to always admire this in Terry's teaching. One day I noticed his Syustematic Theology by Berkhof on his shelf and said, "Terry you are quite a reformed Calvinist, aren't you?" My memory of his response was, "Well yes, but I try to handle that very softly as people do not like to think they are not in total control". He was masterful at leaving God's spirit in charge but still calling people to make responsible decisions to grow in holiness. And that is why both Calvinists and Wseleyans sat under his ministry with great please.<br /><br />What do you think?<br /><br />LaurieLauriehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02791275124194950777noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6748102197325960995.post-17100420248207782152010-03-25T12:48:33.412-07:002010-03-25T12:48:33.412-07:00Dear Kevin,
I just read your blog and appreciate ...Dear Kevin,<br /><br />I just read your blog and appreciate the thoughts and your tetstimony as I remember those days. I only flinched at one section where you said "People have free will and it is obvious that we have to cooperate with the Holy Spirit in ministry and growth". I propose that perhaps a better way to say the same thing would be something like "People have responsibility for their choices and must cooperate with the Holy Spirit in ministry and growth". A nuance like this keeps reformed folk like myself happy, affirms the warnings of the author to the Hebrews (Wesley's concern perhaps?) but also is sensitive to the 39 articles (esp articles XII and XVII) as well scripture (John 15:16, Ephesians 1:11, etc)<br /><br />I used to always admire this in Terry's teaching. One day I noticed his Syustematic Theology by Berkhof on his shelf and said, "Terry you are quite a reformed Calvinist, aren't you?" My memory of his response was, "Well yes, but I try to handle that very softly as people do not like to think they are not in total control". He was masterful at leaving God's spirit in charge but still calling people to make responsible decisions to grow in holiness. And that is why both Calvinists and Wseleyans sat under his ministry with great please.<br /><br />What do you think?<br /><br />LaurieLauriehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02791275124194950777noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6748102197325960995.post-57550065249797667422010-03-25T10:23:40.203-07:002010-03-25T10:23:40.203-07:00Great post, Dean Kevin. Thank you for sharing you...Great post, Dean Kevin. Thank you for sharing your experience. I really enjoyed reading this post too.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09725070667142072469noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6748102197325960995.post-56245014998804259822010-03-24T07:41:00.086-07:002010-03-24T07:41:00.086-07:00Worth talking about. Interesting distinction.Worth talking about. Interesting distinction.Dean Kevinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10900463973040820047noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6748102197325960995.post-2331421365524952622010-03-24T06:55:59.290-07:002010-03-24T06:55:59.290-07:00Kevin, I read--I can't remember where--a disti...Kevin, I read--I can't remember where--a distinction between the call for social justice and the call for compassion. He said that the call for social justice is rooted in competition and jealousy, whereas compassion is a Christian (Judeo-Christian) virtue.<br /><br />I'm reflecting on that distinction. Let's talk about it at lunch.Canon Nealhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04603366613712590504noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6748102197325960995.post-10712590003490939622010-03-10T14:55:05.711-08:002010-03-10T14:55:05.711-08:00For Wesley, the experience had meaning. This is w...For Wesley, the experience had meaning. This is what he actually said.<br />'In the evening I went very unwillingly to a society in Aldersgate Street, where one was reading Luther's preface to the Epistle to the Romans. About a quarter before nine, while he was describing the change which God works in the heart through faith in Christ, I felt my heart strangely warmed. I felt I did trust in Christ, Christ alone, for salvation: and an assurance was given me, that He had taken away my sins, even mine, and saved me from the law of sin and death.'Dean Kevinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10900463973040820047noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6748102197325960995.post-45688512416713586792010-03-07T18:15:48.935-08:002010-03-07T18:15:48.935-08:00Ok, I'm on it.
Thank you very much.Ok, I'm on it.<br />Thank you very much.Twisted in Texashttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12990073392390648699noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6748102197325960995.post-54363183113772751252010-03-05T14:08:51.673-08:002010-03-05T14:08:51.673-08:00I started with his sermons. There are several pri...I started with his sermons. There are several printed editions. His Journal is wonderful. Many biographies quote him extensively. His letter regarding slavery is remarkable for the era he lived in.<br />But start the the Anthology of his sermons.Dean Kevinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10900463973040820047noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6748102197325960995.post-24260948515163021342010-03-05T06:20:56.295-08:002010-03-05T06:20:56.295-08:00What were the Wesley readings that spoke to you? ...What were the Wesley readings that spoke to you? I found this post quite meaningful.Twisted in Texashttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12990073392390648699noreply@blogger.com